Comments on: Model: The 7 Levels of Participation http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/ Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: sytaylor http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2161 sytaylor Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:09:00 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2161 Losing track of how many times I've linked people to this framework. Even the slight stretch to keep the alteration works :o) Losing track of how many times I’ve linked people to this framework.

Even the slight stretch to keep the alteration works :o )

]]> By: Scott Gould http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2160 Scott Gould Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:47:41 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2160 To all in this conversation:I've just posted on how I used this Participation Model to profile communities and establish next actions:<a href="http://scottgould.me/how-i-profile-a-communitys-participation-to-inform-next-actions/" rel="nofollow">http://scottgould.me/how-i-profile-a-communitys...</a>Cheers,Scott To all in this conversation:I've just posted on how I used this Participation Model to profile communities and establish next actions:http://scottgould.me/how-i-profile-a-communitys…Cheers,Scott

]]> By: Scott Gould http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2159 Scott Gould Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:02:18 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2159 Thanks Sy :D Thanks Sy :D

]]> By: sytaylor http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2158 sytaylor Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:14:07 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2158 I am now using your blog as a reference point for helping others setup events. Heh. I am now using your blog as a reference point for helping others setup events. Heh.

]]> By: Scott Gould http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2157 Scott Gould Wed, 19 May 2010 16:31:24 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2157 My skype is scottlegould - let me know when you wanna talk My skype is scottlegould – let me know when you wanna talk

]]> By: Annie Syed http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2156 Annie Syed Tue, 18 May 2010 23:53:03 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2156 Hi Scott. Thanks for the links. Will check out and then skype chat or talk sounds awesome later in the week. Great stuff, man. :) ~annie Hi Scott. Thanks for the links. Will check out and then skype chat or talk sounds awesome later in the week. Great stuff, man. :) ~annie

]]> By: Scott Gould http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2155 Scott Gould Tue, 18 May 2010 13:40:50 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2155 Hey AnnieThank you first of all the comments and for sharing your insights - they are most valuable.If we take the example of Robert's blog, my counter-argument would be that there is little chance someone can go straight to Level 7 - Curation, in one go. Becoming a curator takes time - and with the rights come responsibilities, right?Then if we look at your example on the Jane Austin post - we have a level 5 discussion - how then we do deeper those relationships, have people come back, and engage in more than just a blog post? That's where I have two solutions, in my mind.The first is Do Talk Do: <a href="http://scottgould.me/do-talk-do-what-collaboration-looks-like/" rel="nofollow">http://scottgould.me/do-talk-do-what-collaborat...</a>The second is Scale the Levels of Communication: <a href="http://scottgould.me/scaling-the-levels-of-social-communication/" rel="nofollow">http://scottgould.me/scaling-the-levels-of-soci...</a>As Robin says at the bottom of these comments, we must become facilitators of participation. Participation doesn't just 'happen', and when it does, it needs to facilitated to create more of it.If you have a flick through those posts I've linked to, then let's talk more - perhaps on Skype?Best,Scott Hey AnnieThank you first of all the comments and for sharing your insights – they are most valuable.If we take the example of Robert's blog, my counter-argument would be that there is little chance someone can go straight to Level 7 – Curation, in one go. Becoming a curator takes time – and with the rights come responsibilities, right?Then if we look at your example on the Jane Austin post – we have a level 5 discussion – how then we do deeper those relationships, have people come back, and engage in more than just a blog post? That's where I have two solutions, in my mind.The first is Do Talk Do: http://scottgould.me/do-talk-do-what-collaborat…The second is Scale the Levels of Communication: http://scottgould.me/scaling-the-levels-of-soci…As Robin says at the bottom of these comments, we must become facilitators of participation. Participation doesn't just 'happen', and when it does, it needs to facilitated to create more of it.If you have a flick through those posts I've linked to, then let's talk more – perhaps on Skype?Best,Scott

]]> By: Scott Gould http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2154 Scott Gould Tue, 18 May 2010 13:33:38 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2154 Ha! Too right Sy Ha! Too right Sy

]]> By: sytaylor http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2153 sytaylor Tue, 18 May 2010 13:31:55 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2153 So long as it's not just retweeting Mashable links that's a good thing too. :) So long as it's not just retweeting Mashable links that's a good thing too. :)

]]> By: Annie Syed http://scottgould.me/model-the-7-levels-of-participation/#comment-2152 Annie Syed Tue, 18 May 2010 10:22:13 +0000 http://scottgould.me/?p=1891#comment-2152 Hi Scottshaabaamboom! :) love this diagram.i think it is my former education training and hence I get so psyched about good charts or drawings when it comes to teaching, or maybe, because I am just a visual learner myself! Regardless, this is brilliant. I read through the comments as this 'participation' topic is close to my many selves (relax people, not suffering from multiple personality disorder): it is applicable for education consulting, project development consulting (legal and/or aid work), as a teacher, as someone who writes, as a blogger (yes, for me, the two are a tad different, albeit created with the same yarn). I am not sure how applicable my feedback will be for you and others...given I didn't even know what the hell a SEO was until yesterday; I thought people were mistyping SEC (US Federal Agency: Security & Exchange Commission--a legal watchdog over transactions) so, definitely had no clue what a MMO was until I got here, apparently not short for a mammogram..but I still wanted to share a few thoughts and you never know...sometimes those least familiar with a topic can equally add value, depending they have some experience, if not authority, in their background. If you see twitter (or other social media forums) as a reflection of our physical realm (doesn't matter if you want to slice a conference room or any other type of engagement: board meetings, union meetings, classroom discussions etc.) then it goes something like this: there are people who bring new ideas, there are people who bring forth ideas completely OUT THERE that you wonder what they smoked before speaking, there are people who have thoughts on how to implement those ideas, there are people who disagree no matter what you say, there are people who are driven by ego so it doesn't matter what they have to add as long as they are heard, and then there are people who do not have anything new to add yet they continue to yap, yap, and yap away. I know, how can someone like me who tries to cultivate a compassionate lifestyle be so cold. I will tell you why later. And then there are those who remain quiet and follow. Some because they don't care, some because they are intimidated, some because they are intelligent and not driven by their egos and recognize they are don't have anything new to add. Therefore, the above breakdown begs: WHAT constitutes as the desired participation and WHY. And in that case Robin said it rather succinctly: relevancy and accessibility. I am participating because this topic is very relevant to me on different levels. (Sidenote--often when people respond with some insight, be it in person or on a comment online it is helpful to the speaker as much as it is for the receiver. This is not the same as 'thinking out loud.' From a learning perspective, we conceptualize an idea from another and ourselves a step farther when meaningfully engaged). However, a lot of other words that are familiar to you all are not quite accessible to me. You responded, "The more people buy in, the more people participate." I am a perfect example here because as I said, I am participating because I do "buy it". However, this takes me back to what kind of participation and to achieve what? Because someone who has bought in and participates may not necessarily be the best "curator." Another case in point. I went to this dude's website that you mention. This Robert gentleman. Didn't know who he was. No surprise there. Why would I. Or maybe a better question is: why should I? So, the sleuth researcher that I am, I browsed his posts. You may have picked up by my RTs on twitter that I am finding a certain joy in Facebook's downfall and PR management. My RTs on twitter regarding Facebook's demise are preceded by a (*snicker*) because I not only predicated this but I 'see' more cometh. Save that for later. Now, someone like me who RTs fakebook's demise with a snicker to the extent that I might as well dedicate a separate blog to all the anti-fb links I have bookmarked, did not feel like participating in some very interesting posts that Mr. Thermostat had written about a topic I want to participate in. And here is why? My stance on facebook is beyond privacy concerns given I never did join facebook. But I also know that there are 93 comments on that post of his, so my slant is not going to have value, other than perhaps saying something someone has already said, that is if I took the time to go through all 93 comments! Or at best a mere acknowledgment from him of my comment. Where is the curation in that? There is no intimacy for my self actualization there because implicit in his tone is there is nothing to carry the momentum beyond something that effects social media...it reads like a glorified rant, better articulated than a baby rant of a newbie blogger. Another point: a fellow writer posted this short post about 5 reasons she hates Jane Austen, inspired by 3 tweets that we exchanged. So the post is dedicated to me. Neither one of us were expecting this but it has taken a life of its own. With over 54 comments from people discussion is Paulo Coelho like Dan Brown to what to make of Virginia Woolf if she likes Austen and you don't. It's rather interesting. But after 54 "intellectual/literary" comments, it will hit a plateau. So, great participation and discussion, and....what....next.... This brings me back to my original point about the types of participants we have given our human nature in any given setting. The object of participation then becomes to be driven towards something beyond the participation. Thanks for this five-course meal food for thought, cheers, ~a.q.s. Hi Scottshaabaamboom! :) love this diagram.i think it is my former education training and hence I get so psyched about good charts or drawings when it comes to teaching, or maybe, because I am just a visual learner myself! Regardless, this is brilliant. I read through the comments as this 'participation' topic is close to my many selves (relax people, not suffering from multiple personality disorder): it is applicable for education consulting, project development consulting (legal and/or aid work), as a teacher, as someone who writes, as a blogger (yes, for me, the two are a tad different, albeit created with the same yarn). I am not sure how applicable my feedback will be for you and others…given I didn't even know what the hell a SEO was until yesterday; I thought people were mistyping SEC (US Federal Agency: Security & Exchange Commission–a legal watchdog over transactions) so, definitely had no clue what a MMO was until I got here, apparently not short for a mammogram..but I still wanted to share a few thoughts and you never know…sometimes those least familiar with a topic can equally add value, depending they have some experience, if not authority, in their background. If you see twitter (or other social media forums) as a reflection of our physical realm (doesn't matter if you want to slice a conference room or any other type of engagement: board meetings, union meetings, classroom discussions etc.) then it goes something like this: there are people who bring new ideas, there are people who bring forth ideas completely OUT THERE that you wonder what they smoked before speaking, there are people who have thoughts on how to implement those ideas, there are people who disagree no matter what you say, there are people who are driven by ego so it doesn't matter what they have to add as long as they are heard, and then there are people who do not have anything new to add yet they continue to yap, yap, and yap away. I know, how can someone like me who tries to cultivate a compassionate lifestyle be so cold. I will tell you why later. And then there are those who remain quiet and follow. Some because they don't care, some because they are intimidated, some because they are intelligent and not driven by their egos and recognize they are don't have anything new to add. Therefore, the above breakdown begs: WHAT constitutes as the desired participation and WHY. And in that case Robin said it rather succinctly: relevancy and accessibility. I am participating because this topic is very relevant to me on different levels. (Sidenote–often when people respond with some insight, be it in person or on a comment online it is helpful to the speaker as much as it is for the receiver. This is not the same as 'thinking out loud.' From a learning perspective, we conceptualize an idea from another and ourselves a step farther when meaningfully engaged). However, a lot of other words that are familiar to you all are not quite accessible to me. You responded, “The more people buy in, the more people participate.” I am a perfect example here because as I said, I am participating because I do “buy it”. However, this takes me back to what kind of participation and to achieve what? Because someone who has bought in and participates may not necessarily be the best “curator.” Another case in point. I went to this dude's website that you mention. This Robert gentleman. Didn't know who he was. No surprise there. Why would I. Or maybe a better question is: why should I? So, the sleuth researcher that I am, I browsed his posts. You may have picked up by my RTs on twitter that I am finding a certain joy in Facebook's downfall and PR management. My RTs on twitter regarding Facebook's demise are preceded by a (*snicker*) because I not only predicated this but I 'see' more cometh. Save that for later. Now, someone like me who RTs fakebook's demise with a snicker to the extent that I might as well dedicate a separate blog to all the anti-fb links I have bookmarked, did not feel like participating in some very interesting posts that Mr. Thermostat had written about a topic I want to participate in. And here is why? My stance on facebook is beyond privacy concerns given I never did join facebook. But I also know that there are 93 comments on that post of his, so my slant is not going to have value, other than perhaps saying something someone has already said, that is if I took the time to go through all 93 comments! Or at best a mere acknowledgment from him of my comment. Where is the curation in that? There is no intimacy for my self actualization there because implicit in his tone is there is nothing to carry the momentum beyond something that effects social media…it reads like a glorified rant, better articulated than a baby rant of a newbie blogger. Another point: a fellow writer posted this short post about 5 reasons she hates Jane Austen, inspired by 3 tweets that we exchanged. So the post is dedicated to me. Neither one of us were expecting this but it has taken a life of its own. With over 54 comments from people discussion is Paulo Coelho like Dan Brown to what to make of Virginia Woolf if she likes Austen and you don't. It's rather interesting. But after 54 “intellectual/literary” comments, it will hit a plateau. So, great participation and discussion, and….what….next…. This brings me back to my original point about the types of participants we have given our human nature in any given setting. The object of participation then becomes to be driven towards something beyond the participation. Thanks for this five-course meal food for thought, cheers, ~a.q.s.

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